Liberals Are Unknowingly Working Against The U.S. Labor Class

[James Miller]

Liberals Are Unknowingly Working Against The U.S. Labor Class

By James Miller

Liberals who support illegal immigrants are actually (unknowingly) siding
with greedy U.S. corporations. Why? Because they (ie. liberals) are
(unknowingly) protecting corporate America's cheap labor pool.

WHO WINS? Greedy companies AND illegal workers (earning FAR more than what
they earned in whichever Latin American country they are from).

WHO LOSES? The U.S. labor class (U.S. "proletariat") via job losses to
illegal workers & depressed wages.

Thus 122 years of U.S. labor struggle (carried out since the Haymarket
Rebellion of 1886) is being undermined, just as corporations like it.

But liberals claim they want to legalize all so-called "undocumented
workers" and then unionize them along with American citizens in specific
industries (eg. meat packing, construction, hotel maids, fast food, etc).
First, this solves nothing because of something called labor saturation (ie.
too many workers for too few jobs). Labor saturation always benefits
employers, presence of a union or not. Second, it's extremely unfair to ask
Americans to join forces (in a union) with newly amnestied illegals. Why
should Americans have to compete with border jumpers?

Further, Americans working in the above mentioned industries, even if
unionized, would suffer lower pay (ie. wage depression). How so? An employer
would be able to negotiate lower wages in such a labor saturated job
market - labor saturation weakens a union's bargaining ability since the
possibility of "scabs" is very real with too many workers and not enough
jobs.

What American would join such a "liberal utopia" union? Few would. Why
should they? But suppose such a union was indeed formed. What would happen?
The hispanic wing of the union (made up of recently amnestied hispanics)
would be the union's weak link. Since most such people are from Mexico or
another Latin American country, they're used to a lower standard of living
(compared to American workers). Thus, they would be more willing (vs the
American workers) to vote for a "low ball" wage offer from management. This
amounts to wage depression for the American workers.

Finally, in addition to amnesty, liberals insist on open borders, allowing
for an endless stream of new cheap labor workers. Do liberals intend to
amnesty and unionize these new arrivals? Yes. And that leads to EVEN MORE
labor saturation. Even Cesar Chavez recognized the insanity of amnesty and
open borders when he said, "the enemy of organized labor is illegal labor,
and the endless supply of it".

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For SERIOUS conservative writing visit my blog:
http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com

[Andy]

Post by James Miller
Liberals Are Unknowingly Working Against The U.S. Labor Class
By James Miller
Liberals who support illegal immigrants are actually (unknowingly) siding
with greedy U.S. corporations. Why? Because they (ie. liberals) are
(unknowingly) protecting corporate America's cheap labor pool.
WHO WINS? Greedy companies AND illegal workers (earning FAR more than what
they earned in whichever Latin American country they are from).
WHO LOSES? The U.S. labor class (U.S. "proletariat") via job losses to
illegal workers & depressed wages.
Thus 122 years of U.S. labor struggle (carried out since the Haymarket
Rebellion of 1886) is being undermined, just as corporations like it.
But liberals claim they want to legalize all so-called "undocumented
workers" and then unionize them along with American citizens in specific
industries (eg. meat packing, construction, hotel maids, fast food, etc).
First, this solves nothing because of something called labor saturation (ie.
too many workers for too few jobs). Labor saturation always benefits
employers, presence of a union or not. Second, it's extremely unfair to ask
Americans to join forces (in a union) with newly amnestied illegals. Why
should Americans have to compete with border jumpers?
Further, Americans working in the above mentioned industries, even if
unionized, would suffer lower pay (ie. wage depression). How so? An employer
would be able to negotiate lower wages in such a labor saturated job
market - labor saturation weakens a union's bargaining ability since the
possibility of "scabs" is very real with too many workers and not enough
jobs.
What American would join such a "liberal utopia" union? Few would. Why
should they? But suppose such a union was indeed formed. What would happen?
The hispanic wing of the union (made up of recently amnestied hispanics)
would be the union's weak link. Since most such people are from Mexico or
another Latin American country, they're used to a lower standard of living
(compared to American workers). Thus, they would be more willing (vs the
American workers) to vote for a "low ball" wage offer from management. This
amounts to wage depression for the American workers.
Finally, in addition to amnesty, liberals insist on open borders, allowing
for an endless stream of new cheap labor workers. Do liberals intend to
amnesty and unionize these new arrivals? Yes. And that leads to EVEN MORE
labor saturation. Even Cesar Chavez recognized the insanity of amnesty and
open borders when he said, "the enemy of organized labor is illegal labor,
and the endless supply of it".
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For SERIOUS conservative writing visit my blog:http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com

From my experience in the UK, this is pretty much the opposite of
reality.

Poor immigrants add a bit of clout to the plight of poor locals - more
votes and more voices for the dispossessed.

The only issue that DOES affect immigrants and locals in the labour
market is that local people tend to be trapped within structual
unemployment situations- i.e. the poverty trap where the lowest wages
do not pay as much as social security - a single immigrant sharing a
small property has a lower cost of living than an indigenous family
(however they cannot claim many social benefits). Then again, unfilled
vacancies cost business, so less jobs for the locals..

[B. Jackson]

Post by Andy

Post by James Miller
Liberals Are Unknowingly Working Against The U.S. Labor Class
By James Miller
Liberals who support illegal immigrants are actually (unknowingly) siding
with greedy U.S. corporations. Why? Because they (ie. liberals) are
(unknowingly) protecting corporate America's cheap labor pool.
WHO WINS? Greedy companies AND illegal workers (earning FAR more than what
they earned in whichever Latin American country they are from).
WHO LOSES? The U.S. labor class (U.S. "proletariat") via job losses to
illegal workers & depressed wages.
Thus 122 years of U.S. labor struggle (carried out since the Haymarket
Rebellion of 1886) is being undermined, just as corporations like it.
But liberals claim they want to legalize all so-called "undocumented
workers" and then unionize them along with American citizens in specific
industries (eg. meat packing, construction, hotel maids, fast food, etc).
First, this solves nothing because of something called labor saturation (ie.
too many workers for too few jobs). Labor saturation always benefits
employers, presence of a union or not. Second, it's extremely unfair to ask
Americans to join forces (in a union) with newly amnestied illegals. Why
should Americans have to compete with border jumpers?
Further, Americans working in the above mentioned industries, even if
unionized, would suffer lower pay (ie. wage depression). How so? An employer
would be able to negotiate lower wages in such a labor saturated job
market - labor saturation weakens a union's bargaining ability since the
possibility of "scabs" is very real with too many workers and not enough
jobs.
What American would join such a "liberal utopia" union? Few would. Why
should they? But suppose such a union was indeed formed. What would happen?
The hispanic wing of the union (made up of recently amnestied hispanics)
would be the union's weak link. Since most such people are from Mexico or
another Latin American country, they're used to a lower standard of living
(compared to American workers). Thus, they would be more willing (vs the
American workers) to vote for a "low ball" wage offer from management. This
amounts to wage depression for the American workers.
Finally, in addition to amnesty, liberals insist on open borders, allowing
for an endless stream of new cheap labor workers. Do liberals intend to
amnesty and unionize these new arrivals? Yes. And that leads to EVEN MORE
labor saturation. Even Cesar Chavez recognized the insanity of amnesty and
open borders when he said, "the enemy of organized labor is illegal labor,
and the endless supply of it".
###
--
For SERIOUS conservative writing visit my blog:http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com

From my experience in the UK, this is pretty much the opposite of
reality.
Poor immigrants add a bit of clout to the plight of poor locals - more
votes and more voices for the dispossessed.

And compete for jobs.